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We Could Be Immortals... by Mizu-no-Akira We Could Be Immortals... by Mizu-no-Akira

They say we are what we are
But we don't have to be.
I'm bad behavior but I do it in the best way.
I'll be the watcher (watcher) of the eternal flame.
I'll be the guard dog of all your fever dreams.

(...)
I Try to picture me without you, but I can't

'Cause we could be immortals, immortals
Just not for long, for long.
And live with me forever now,
You pull the blackout curtains down
Just not for long, for long.
(...)

- "Immortals" by Fall Out Boy


A little something I made after watching Big Hero 6... and totally falling in love with the soundtrack *-*
I think it really fits Brambleclaw and - especially - Hawkfrost and his intentions.
Oh, by the way: This is one of the last scenes from "Sunset", right before Bramble and Hawk fight and the latter dies... kinda accidentally (eventhough it was a necessity. If Bramble didn't kill his brother by accident, there would've been at least 2 more cat's who had enough reasons to kill him... .__.). Is it just me, or does this happen quite often to villians in these books?
Anyways, I hope you like it. One or two years ago I already made a picture of Hawk's death... but I always felt like there was more to the situation, than just his death. There was so much tension between those two cats. Bramble always lived in the present. The "here and now" counted, while Hawk was like a remnant of the past. He kept his father's ideals alive and tried to infect his brother's mind with them. I don't believe, that Hawk was born evil... He was just stubborn and ambitious to get revenge for a father he never knew. His past was what made him the villian. I wonder what a cat he would've been without his father's influence.

Next upload will be the new comic page!! :D It's amost finished!


Characters & story (c) by Erin Hunter
Illustration (c) by :iconmizu-no-akira: ...ME! :3
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:iconawesomewhale04:
Awesomewhale04 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2017
*Slams hands on desk*
FALLOUT BOY!
(Also, amazing art!)
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:iconwildspiritflower:
WildSpiritFlower Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is it me or does Hawkfrost have yellow eyes?
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:iconfoxspirit06720:
FoxSpirit06720 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Its the reflection. If you look closely you can see the blue.
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:icongirl-of-creation:
Girl-of-Creation Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2017
Hawkfrost: I did it for you.
Brambleclaw: B%$# plz. (kills him)
Me: ......
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SlickClaw Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
That song fits so well...
(And it's one I've heard! xD)
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RunningWhisker Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2017
OOH WATCHA GONNA DO BRAMBLE MAH MAN
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ArtWithLulu Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Immortals has always kinda been my "brotp" or whatever song for Hawkbae and Bramblebaby
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:iconevelyncat:
EvelynCat Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You would make AWESOME animations!
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Pexel-Prints Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2016  Professional Photographer
oh my God - this eyes are so beautiful *-*
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:iconrosexriver:
RoseXRiver Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
ikr i love the eyes :)
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:iconwarriorsofeverything:
Warriorsofeverything Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2016
That was deep
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:iconcrazyanimallover1102:
crazyanimallover1102 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2016  Student General Artist
You style is so pretty what art software do you use?
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9416006 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Best soundtrack ever. Also, wow. That is awesome.
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:iconanaissia:
Anaissia Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016
It looks like Bramblestar is younger than Hawkfrost. But no, Bramblestar is older.
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:iconmistyfoxyyy:
Mistyfoxyyy Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
I love that song
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:iconbrileecrabb:
brileecrabb Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2016  Student Digital Artist
"we could be immortals immortals" i love that song XD
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:iconneonstar4:
Neonstar4 Featured By Owner Edited Jun 26, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You are better at drawing than Riverspirit!
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:iconryeven:
Ryeven Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's really rude.

Everyone is good at drawing.
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:iconneonstar4:
Neonstar4 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
O-O I know..
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:iconryeven:
Ryeven Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then why'd you say it?
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DrakynWyrm Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They are allowed to have their own opinions if they want to. Please don't attack them for it. :/
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:iconryeven:
Ryeven Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
sorry
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:iconneonstar4:
Neonstar4 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
0-0
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:iconryeven:
Ryeven Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
...?
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:iconneonstar4:
Neonstar4 Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hawkfrost's eyes are blue
Not trying to be rude or anything..
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:iconmoth-wing:
moth-wing Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2016
It's called lighting.
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:iconkoldian:
Koldian Featured By Owner Edited Aug 1, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi! sorry for the long response to a month late comment, but this bugged me a bit as someone who obsesses over colors and light. I've struggled with light, color, and how light effects color, and I've been told many times how to correct them. I still mess up sometimes. Hope I don't step on any paws, but this is kinda here to save anyone reading this being mislead.



I love Mizu's art style, and how she does her comics and images in general. But I can tell you definitely that this is less lighting, and more of a style choice. Here. Different lighting, similar eye color. Both Blue and Hawk have blue eyes, but the lighting in each image is different. 

In a sunset, blue eyes should still look like they have some sort of blue in them, especially when the sun isn't in their eyes. The sun is behind Hawkfrost, so there's no reason for them to be this shade of orange.
yes.
orange. It's too intense, as if the artist took 'ice blue' and used more ice than blue. As a result, it makes it appear as if Hawkfrost's base eye color is white or pale yellow as opposed to the blue in his official art here. It's a good effect, don't get me wrong, but to me it looks a little off. It's (once again) clearly a style choice because if it were just lighting, the eyes would be a different color. I'd show you what I mean, and what I think would be a better color choice but I don't like editing other artists' work without permission.

With the sun being behind Hawkfrost rather than in front, the light shouldn't be turning his eyes the color of the sun behind them. It'd be another story if the light source was in front, or even reflecting off the water. But both the sun, and the lake are behind him. Not to mention Brambleclaw. If it were a lighting choice I believe Bramble would have a similar color scheme(or Palette? I can't words.), but a little more dark and saturated. I adore Mizu's attention to the eyes to make them shine so brightly, but these eyes look more like the sun has been cast in front of the cats rather than behind.

You should never use 'It's called lighting' on an image as an excuse for incorrect color.


Hope this helps explain a few things. I'm not gonna write a full critique of an image that's over a year old, but this is something I felt I should bring to attention being that you're not the first person on this submission to say that the eye color is due to lighting.
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moth-wing Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2016
The artist has done this on multiple submissions, and when she actually takes the time to go and repeat herself over and over and over again, whether it's because Character A's eye color "isn't right" or Character B "isn't x color" - her response is that it's the lighting - which I'll admit that the "lighting" isn't even the stem of my actual irritation here, which, yes, is my fault, and more of a knee-jerk response with said previous responses by the artist kept in mind in a manner that could or could not be considered confrontational, but I digress. If it's incorrect, then it's incorrect.

Why the frigidity-frack does it even matter if an artist uses a color - for, well, anything on anything that isn't canon or "right?" (Especially in this silly series, where the writer's can't even stay consistent with their characters.) Why do you have to parrot the twenty or so other comments saying the exact same thing?
Why even comment at all if that's the only thing you're going to say? That's not commenting about the art itself. It's not "constructive criticism" or whatever else people use as a silly justification. You are going to something an artist put time into only to say to them, "you're wrong."
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moth-wing Featured By Owner Edited Aug 7, 2016
Oh! I have no idea what Koldian's knickers are in a twist for either. Never said anything about their goddamn critique. Never insulted or insinuated anything about them. Not a word. (And yet they're the one preaching to me (???) about hostility, maturity and interpretting things at face value here? Hah. Haha.)
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:iconkoldian:
Koldian Featured By Owner Edited Aug 2, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't like long debate comments, because there is literally nothing to argue about but whatever. Take offense. Do you get mad when you see people writing critiques on anything you enjoy? Do you like when artists grow stagnate?

Ah yes, the noble parrot. The creature that only repeats what everyone else has said.
Except it's something I'm not.
You took what I said at face value and didn't bother actually reading what I wrote. It didn't matter how educated I was in my response, it didn't matter what I linked. You immediately slipped into some sort of battle mode as if I had attacked you or Mizu when all I said was that it wasn't lighting and it was a style choice.
I didn't even say she needed to change it???
I was differentiating between lighting and style choice??? LMAO???
I really don't care if Mizu keeps doing her eyes this way.
 It isn't even sent to the artist, it was towards you and literally anyone who think you can use lighting as an excuse to showcase incorrect coloration. Firstly, I'm not neon lmao, so I don't know why you're so hostile. I didn't come at you with any hostility and gave you a calm and educated response. I've never been to art school of any sort but I've gotten my critiques personally from students who have and I even asked for their input. 

Second of all, I said it was more of a style choice, rather than lighting. If Mizu says it's for lighting, then I'm sorry but that doesn't add up?? The only time light changes the color of the entire eye is if the light is hitting the eye or if light is absent. If light is absent it darkens the eye, if the light is right on the eye then the eye looks brighter. It's that simple. Bramble's eyes aren't effected by the light at all even though he's in Hawkfrost's light as well. I know she claims lighting and that she's done it on other pictures. I literally linked one as an example. It, honestly, is more of a style choice than any sort of lighting.

Take it this way.
If someone had commissioned you to draw something, and you chose to use a different color because you thought it looked good your client would then ask you to correct it. Or if the client was really unhappy, they'd ask for a refund. If your client likes you they're more likely to ask for a correction. I doubt you're experienced enough with that but it happens almost every time in the art business. Here's an example, see?. While the issue with the design was the commissioner's fault, the artist forgot the bracelet and they were asked to correct it. So yes, every little detail counts even if it's just the eye color.

I said what I said moreso for anyone that looks at Mizu's art for any sort of inspiration or reference.
I'll say this again, a thousand times if I have to. The excuse of lighting will not fly if you use it as an excuse for why you didn't stick to the reference.
If someone pays you to draw something, 9/10 they're going to want it to look exactly like it should. Sometimes people are comissioned to draw OCs, sometimes canon characters. If it doesn't look like the reference offered, or like the official art from that show or book series people are going to say something.

here, I googled constructive criticism for you:
"Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one. The purpose of 'constructive criticism is to improve the outcome."

And that's what my contact contained. Nothing in my comment was worded with hostility, and believe it or not I did make positive comments of what I liked. The reason I didn't make comments about the whole peiece was because I was talking about the eyes not the whole bloody picture. None of my points were invalid, and as I said before the argument that it's lighting doesn't' make sense because the sun and lake(a reflective light source) are behind them both. They're in shadow, there is literally no reason for Hawkfrost's eyes to be that shade of orange if his base color was blue. I think you can see that, I think you don't care. You seem to think that constructive criticism shouldn't exist period. I don't care if Mizu doesn't want to correct it, but as I keep saying and even stated right in the beginning of my  comment:

"this is kinda here to save anyone reading this being mislead"

That's it. THERE IT IS. If you used the excuse "it's called lighting" in a professional environment or art school I can safely say that you would be laughed out of the room. I'm trying to save anyone who reads this who wants to do artwork professional the embarrassment of that.

By the way.

"Why even comment at all if that's the only thing you're going to say? That's not commenting about the art itself."
If I wasn't making a comment about the art itself it wouldn't be a comment l m a o.
All comments about the art don't have to be "WOW IT LOOKS SO COOL" or "oh mah gosh I wish I could draw like that"
Surprise! A critique is still talking about the art itself. That's, you know, what a critique is.
Surprise, I did in fact make comments about how I like the attention to the eyes that Mizu always shows. It's one of my favorite things about her artwork.
But I stand by what I said even more now.

You're clearly someone inexperienced and someone who doesn't know how to take literally any sort of criticism. Your comment of "
 It's not "constructive criticism" or whatever else people use as a silly justification. "
sells that. I'm not here to be anyone's enemy or to be an asshole. I offered sound advice, stated my point calmly and with links, and you took offense to it. Amazing. I love this attitude that people have towards critiques these day. It makes my heart sing as it recedes another three inches into my body. Reading your comment was incredibly disheartening, and once again I sat here baffled as to why someone would complain about something meant to help someone.

This wasn't going to be a long comment, but look what happened.
Regardless.
I trust you have enough maturity and understanding to know that this is not an argument you should pursue. My stance will never change, and I doubt you will either no matter how many facts I slam down.
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Neonstar4 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:l
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lightningstriko Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2016  Student Artist
its amazing, and everything else but brambeclaw looks a little bit weird. no affence, but he could have a rather more angry and shocked face than...
but still great work or art, 'artist'. :-)
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xGoldenskyx Featured By Owner May 17, 2016
THIS IS SO AWESOME!!!! I am currently writing a book called Firestar's decision! It's this, but from Firestar's point of view
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:iconlightningstriko:
lightningstriko Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2016  Student Artist
wow! you're writing a book? cool! :-O
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xGoldenskyx Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2016
I'm actually allready done writing it, I just need time to upload the chapters, there are 11
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genekesis Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
we could be immortals

immortals

*brambleclaw kills hawkfrost*

JUST NOT FOR LONG
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xGoldenskyx Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016
omg so tru!!! XD
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Narwhalicorn123 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2016  Student Digital Artist
I love the way you draw warriors, it's just so nice to look at!
It seems like a mix between realistic cats and manga style, and I LOVE IT.
Keep up the great work!
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:iconlightningstriko:
lightningstriko Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2016  Student Artist
so tru though! you hit the nail right on the head! they're right u know 'Picasso' :-D
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oO-inkywolf-Oo Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like the look in Hawkfrost's eyes. You got his eye color wrong (blue) but that's just a minor mistake. Love your style.
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liightnerd Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
// She did Hawkfrost's eye colour right, just with all the lighting effects them seem a different colour.
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xMonsterwolfx Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
so cool!! <3
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JustDoItMarshall Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
there's so much I like about this particular picture: the sun glare camera kens effect, the way their eyes glow, idk. I just know that I like it very much.
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lovecatsanddragons Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Student Digital Artist
darn you hawkfrost!
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:iconlightningstriko:
lightningstriko Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2016  Student Artist
curse u 2! jk, jk! :-) love it!!
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alvringer Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love the way you do perspectives, I always have difficultly wondering how I would fit the main characters in a scene, but you manage it really well. I love the colours here :D
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jaywing2101 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2015  Student Digital Artist
how do you do shading?
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TWBOAA Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Beutiful picture! I know Hawkfrost had blue eyes, but the reflection in his blue eyes are so pretty! I love hos they turn gold! Your eyes amaze me. But most of all, te expressions are beautiful. You express them so well. The cats are so cute!
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XDRosii Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
CAUSE WE COULD BE IMMORTALS!!! La la la la
I LOVE THAT SONG! <3
Fantastic art! *w*
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Umikah Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2015
OMG!!! IMMORTALS IS MY FAV SONG AT THE MO!!! (yeah, the sound track is amazing! <3)
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